Does Anyone Know of Any Longer Term Christian Post Rehab Programs?
Question by Starkles: Does anyone know of any longer term Christian post rehab programs?
My son has been in drug rehab for 38 days and we are looking for a chrisitian program where he can go to continue working his sobriety that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Answer by Ellen
Drug addiction is an equal opportunity killer. Find a good rehab and don’t worry if it is “christian” or not. He wasn’t living by religious rules before and sobriety is the only thing that he needs now. I know…I have been in recovery for over 15 yrs and am Jewish.
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Salvation Army has a recovery program. Also the patient can work for the cost of treatment at the rehab, so it’s what you are looking for I think. I know there is one in Seattle, not sure where else. Maybe look up Salvation Army in your area and ask.
Salvation Army is christian based, but they don’t turn away nonchristians.
I am replying to you by PM? so as to be as thorough as possible.
Please explain then what exactly is meant by: if someone? says “Jesus is Lord (kyrios/YHVH),” it is “by the Holy Spirit” that they are able to say this.
The NLT reads: no one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit.
How can this mean anything other than how I’ve interpreted it? For it clearly states the only way someone can confess Christ as Lord is if they have the Holy Spirit.
So please explain your interpretation since I must have missed it. Copy it if you like to this comment.
I agree that faith is not enough, since “the demons believe” (James2:19).
In fact, have you watched this video? If you do, you will see how Paul’s message lines up w/ Yeshua’s…how we must remain in His love…how our walk must match our words.
You shared your pre-conversion story. ~Thank God you are still here~ & thank you for sharing what caused you to? have faith in God.
Can you share the moment when you gave all to Jesus? What changes occurred afterward?
*Do you* believe Jesus is Lord/YHVH?
I think I have answered you liberally on my belief that 1Cor.12:3 is true. Your question is worded differently from? the verse, however. The verse does *not* say no man can say Jesus is “their” Lord without the Holy Spirit “in them.” Your issue is not with the verse, but with your misinterpretation of the verse.
If someone says “Jesus is Lord (kyrios/YHVH),” it is “by the Holy Spirit” that they are able to say this.
Pt 4
Now please answer my question.
Can someone confess Christ as their Lord and NOT have the Holy Spirit in them?
It’s not a? trick question.
Pt 3
So by God’s grace, I recieved the gift of faith.
So God has done this much for me.
But now here’s the kicker.
Faith is a gift from God. But what you must realize is that, what I do with that gift will determine if I enter the Kingdom? of God or not. For if I do not have saving worship, the gift of faith will not save me.
So the gift of faith gets me only so far. For we are given robes of righteousness that MUST be returned in the same condition that they are given.
Con’t
Pt 2
I eventually found myself in a Evangelical Church that preached the prosperiety gospel.
Now – how/why was I saved?
God put people in my path who planted the seed. And then sometime later someone else watered the seed.
So it was by the grace of God that someone found me convulsing in a bed in a men’s shelter? after overdosing.
And it was by the grace of God that my eyes were opened by the people God put in my path.
Con’t
I was? living on the streets and in mens shelters like the Salvation Army. I entered a 90 day rehab program that was run by an ex Catholic preist. The program put a lot of emphasis on god. but I still didn’t believe.
Several months after leaving the program I tried to commit suicide.
After leaving the hospital I entered a 2nd 90 day rehab program run by the Salvation Army.
This time around I began going to AA and N/A meetings in which they stressed a “higher power”.
Con’t
TrustinJC -? how were you saved?
So are you saying that you agree with Paul? Do you? honestly believe it’s impossible to confess Christ as your Lord without the Holy Spirit?
I’ve already said by way of comments and videos that we can sear, or grieve the Holy Spirit. But that’s not the issue. Searing the Holy Spirit is very different from never having had the Holy Spirit.
And as we see from Peter in Samaria, people who were baptised had not yet recieved the Holy Spirit.
This proves Paul was lying.
Amen. :))) We keep the commandments as written…and then we go the extra mile, a sacrificial love? like our Savior demonstrated. We love one another as He has loved us. This verse humbles me. A great reminder. Blessings.
Yes,? one of many passages where we see God use Paul in a mighty way.
TrustinJC, please read/re-read my comments to you from several days ago. The Holy Spirit speaks to hearts before indwelling them. He most certainly can give a person knowledge that Jesus is Lord, by which a? person makes the confession, and later indwell them.
Would you mind telling me about your conversion?
2Pe 3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother PAUL also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be? understood, which THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, as [they do] also THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
Ooops gotta throw away Peter and Acts and Luke.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and? exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Since you do not believe this you can worship this being as god when the temple is rebuilt knowing that Paul, in your mind, is a liar.
The passage you just cited actually PROVES Paul is a liar.
Because he tells us that no one can confess Christ as their Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
But you just cited a passage where professing believers were water baptised, and yet had not recieved the Holy Spirit.
It’s pretty clear.?
John 14:15 If ye love (Jesus) me, keep my commandments
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and? with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment
Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Act 19:3 Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard? [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid [his] hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied
Paul never lied
(cont.Pt.2)
..In response some repent & continue in Him, some repent & later fall away, & some refuse to repent. Regardless of our decision, we can only confess that Jesus is Lord *by* the Spirit revealing it to us.
I confessed that Jesus is Lord *by* the Spirit – I believed, confessed, repented when He spoke to my heart in an obvious way – but I did not receive the Spirit until the following day. And it was a shocker! Like? those in Samaria, I had no idea that was part of giving my life to Him.
Many know the fact that Jesus Christ is Lord because the Holy Spirit has revealed this truth to them. Many of these same people do not *act* on this knowledge by making Jesus their Lord/obeying Him. What Spirit do you think caused those in Samaria to believe Jesus is Lord *prior* to receiving the Holy Spirit (His indwelling them)? It was the Holy? Spirit! The Holy Spirit reveals to us that Jesus Christ is Lord. In *response* to this knowledge…
(cont…)
Having thousands of different denominations and bad fruit in the church is proof that people can confess Christ is Lord and not have the Holy Spirit.
Searing the Holy Spirit can only be done by someone who once had the Holy Spirit. So yes, people can grieve the Holy Spirit.
But the story in Acts, about believers in Samaria, clearly states? there were believers who were batized, but had not recieved the Holy Spirit.
So Paul clearly lied. People CAN confess Christ without the Holy Spirit.
So you believe someone can confess Jesus is Lord and never fall away or grieve the Holy Spirit? I don’t believe Scripture shows? that.
But Paul says no one can confess? Christ as Lord unless it be by the Holy Spirit.
Now if everyone that confesses Christ as Lord has the Holy Spirit, how can any of those people be in grave error or be lacking love?