Jehovah’s Witnesses Martyrs of the Holocaust?
Question by Adamantium: Jehovah’s Witnesses martyrs of the holocaust?
The Swedish government has produced a book on the Holocaust entitled Tell Ye Your Children, which has been distributed throughout the country free of charge to all households with children. This publication notes that Jehovah’s Witnesses “refused to swear an oath of allegiance to Hitler and Nazi Germany. Such resistance is exceptional because merely signing a document declaring their allegiance would have ended their persecution—yet few chose this option.”
Jehovahs Witnesses were the only group given a choice to stay in the concentration camps or swear allegiance to hitler.
Historian Brian Dunn stated: ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses were incompatible with Nazism. Most important of the Nazi objections to them was their political neutrality. This meant that no believer would bear arms, hold office, take part in public festivals, or make any sign of allegiance.
More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah’s_Witnesses
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Answer by sunshinemee
hmmm
still think the jews have one up on them…
There were millions of people persecuted by the Nazis, even Germany’s own people, forcing the kids into battle. etc. Its ridiculous to single out “maryrs” when anyone who came out alive is a miracle.
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“As a group”, yes
But also, individually, they were approached with a choice.
There were a few others that refused Nazism and suffered.
A protestant here and there maybe, as an example.
Most who suffered had no choice ethnically.
But what makes the Witnesses exceptional is they could have signed a little paper stating allegiance to Hitler and walk away.
They had a choice, allegiance to Hitler, or God?
They chose ‘as a group’, and as individuals, not to endorse Nazism.
I question your following sentence:
“Jehovah’s Witnesses were the only group given a choice to stay in the concentration camps or swear allegiance to hitler”
I believe the other area churches, and peoples were given the choice. And they chose to follow Hitler.
Jehovah’s Witnesses would not join the military in fighting the Germans. They were useless and if we followed their lead Hitler would have killed even more people.
Should we now discuss those JW children which died because blood transfusions were refused?
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In the defense of your household.
If my daughter was in the back yard and next to her was a poisonous snake I would not wait around for the police to show up. Instead I would grab my machete and kill them before they injure my children. Just as the civil magistrate has the God-given authority to protect the nation, so to a person has a right to defend their household from serious harm. We read in Exodus 22:2, 3;
“If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.”
But notice if the person is found in the next day he is not to be killed. Here again we have an example of lawful and unlawful acts of taking away of a man’s life. If the person is in the act of threatening your family you have the right to fight back – however you are not to behave as the judge and jury the next day in the street.
This is one of those Old Testament cases where we can glean a general equity or principle for our present day situation. Some will say; “Oh no! That was the Old Testament, today we turn the other cheek.” What they forget is that the moral law does not change from the Old Testament into the New Testament. The teaching to turn the other cheek was to counter the over aggressive use of revenge in Jesus’ day (you have heard an eye for an eye). Also notice in Luke 6:29; what we are talking about a non-lethal slapping of the cheek, the carrying of a pack two mile, the given of your coat. These were only acts of humiliation and hardly comparable to serious dangers of our families. This does not mean we are to sit ideally by (waiting for the authorities) as our family is murdered. Yes, we are to resist taking manner into our own hands but that is if it’s possible, as it says in Romans; “If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men” “If it is possible” is not the same as always. We are to strive to live at peace with all men, but if our families are in danger we are to rise up and be their protectors.
Yes, many Jehovah’s Witnesses were persecuted by the Nazis, because of their beliefs and political neutrality. They could sign their way out, but it would mean compromising their beliefs, so most didn’t do that. They had to wear a purple star. The Jews were the biggest group persecuted, of course, but it is true that the JW’s showed a lot of courage and faith and should be remembered, too.
that’s nice , I still think they are loony, they expel their own members from their family and society if they don’t want any part of it , I saw a little girl die simply because she needed a blood transfusion , but will take an organ transplant (health care-it makes you see the lite) ! look I can go on and on! just because they said no to pig vomit Hitler doesn’t mean crap to me when you are a Hypocrite otherwise!
Yes, but only the Jews are remembered for suffering. The Witnesses also were one of the first groups to smuggle information out of Germany about what Hitler was doing to the Jews and others. But, just like people here on this site, the world chose to ignore the warnings.
As for the blood issue. Have any of you really checked to see that most people, young and old have survived without having transfusions? This has been an ongoing battle for Witnesses for many years and now the doctors and hospitals
are finally coming to the conclusion that not giving blood gives a patient more of a chance for survival. You might want to check out the bloodless surgery sites on the Internet. Because of our insistence on following Gods command to abstain from blood, the future is looking better for people who are seriously ill or have had an accident. The threat of Aides and other blood transmitted diseases do not occur in people that take blood expander’s. Do any of you who accuse us of refusing blood to our children ever really check into the advantages that gives to our children? No, you just want negative examples. When you read in the paper about a child who was denied blood because of the parents stand, do you ever check back to see if that child actually died? More and more people are refusing blood because of the serious consequences of transfusions. These are not even Jehovah’s Witnesses. There are far more people who die because they receive blood than those who do refuse it. Check out the statistics.
From Wikepedia
Bloodless medicine appeals to many doctors because it carries low risk of post-operative infection when compared with procedures requiring blood transfusion. Additionally, it is cost-saving. The cost of blood in the US hovers around $ 500 a unit, including testing[citation needed]. These costs are further increased as, according to Jan Hoffman (an administrator for the blood conservation program at Geisinger Medical Center in Danville, Pennsylvania), hospitals must pick up the tab for the first three units of blood infused per patient per calendar year. By contrast, hospitals may be reimbursed for drugs that boost a patient’s red blood cell count, a treatment approach often used before and after surgery to reduce the need for a blood transfusion. Geisinger Medical Center began a blood conservation program in 2005 and reported a recorded savings of $ 273,000 in its first six months of operation.[1]
Hospitals and medical centers with bloodless medicine programs
United States
Legacy Good Samaritan, Portland, Oregon[2]
Legacy Emanual Hospital, Portland, Oregon[3]
Legacy Salmon Creek, Vancouver, Washington[4]
Swedish Medical Center, Seattle, Washington
The University Hospital, Newark, New Jersey
Englewood Hospital and Medical Center, Englewood, New Jersey
Meriter Hospital, Madison, Wisconsin
Community Hospital of Los Gatos, Los Gatos, California
Franklin Square Hospital Center, Baltimore, Maryland
Sharp Chula Vista Medical Center, San Diego, California
Atlanta Medical Center, Atlanta, Georgia
Pennsylvania Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Baptist Health Inc., Jacksonville, Florida
Mercy Medical Center, Canton, Ohio
Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, Florida
Jersey Shore University Medical Center, Neptune, New Jersey
CHRISTUS St. John Hospital, Nassau Bay, Texas [5]